president obama hitting the campaign trail today after his dismal debate performance. joining is now, let's get right to it. what is he going to do now? >> i think this is an interesting question. at the top of your show you talked about how the liberals are so upset with president obama, and i think that was actually a turning point in creating a consensus in america that romney somehow brought to the obama. it was not so much conservatives , and that the conservatives to think romney won, but it was liberals. everybody from michael more to build more up in arms with president obama, so they want him to go at pain before he's seventh person at the offshore accounts. lou: but you don't think that obama got his tail kicked? >> i think the debate was a draw or something like that. lou: that draw? [laughter] >> when i look at it. lou: i just got over that. i want you to know -- >> don't spam me. lou: by the way, you're staring me. i can't believe that you, a practice to journalist of your stature watch that and somehow think it's a drop. >> what's interesting, was watchin